8 Spruce Street Building vs Four Seasons New York Downtown

8 Spruce Street Building
Four Seasons New York Downtown

Comparing the 8 Spruce Street Building and the Four Seasons New York Downtown is interesting because they both rise in New York, NY, yet they were conceived by two different design teams, Frank Gehry and Robert A.M. Stern Architects, and were completed at different points in time. They were finished more than 6 years apart.

This contrast within the same city allows us to see how different creative minds interpreted the evolving needs of New York across time.

Let's take a closer look!

Height
265m
Floors
76

Height & Size

Height
282m
Floors
82

The Four Seasons New York Downtown is clearly the larger tower of the two, both in terms of height and number of floors. It rises to 925ft (282m) with 82 floors above ground, while the 8 Spruce Street Building reaches 869ft (265m) with 76 floors above ground.

Of course, each project may have faced different briefs or regulatory constraints, which we don't really know about and could also explain the outcome.

Style
Contemporary

Architectural Style

Style
Contemporary

Both the 8 Spruce Street Building and the Four Seasons New York Downtown were designed in line with the aesthetic conventions of the Contemporary style.

At the time, this style was at the height of its popularity. So both Frank Gehry and Robert A.M. Stern Architects followed what was in many ways expected of them, producing designs that fit comfortably within contemporary architectural norms, rather than breaking with convention.

Main use
Residential

Uses

Main use
Mixed

The Four Seasons New York Downtown follows a mixed-use model, combining residential and hotel. In contrast, the 8 Spruce Street Building has remained primarily residential.

The Four Seasons New York Downtown incorporates a 5-star hotel with 189 rooms. More information is available at the official website.

In terms of capacity, the 8 Spruce Street Building offers 899 apartments, while the Four Seasons New York Downtown provides 157 units.

The 8 Spruce Street Building also provides 175 parking spaces.

Structure
Frame
Facade
Curtain Wall

Structure & Facade

Structure
Frame
Facade
Modular

Both towers share the same structural solution, a Frame system.

A frame structure uses a grid of columns and beams to carry the building's loads. This frees the walls from structural duties, allowing for flexible floor plans and larger windows.

However, when it comes to the facade, both buildings use different approaches. The 8 Spruce Street Building uses a Curtain Wall facade, while the Four Seasons New York Downtown uses a Modular facade.

A Curtain Wall facade like the one seen in the 8 Spruce Street Building uses a lightweight glass curtain wall hung from the structure, while a modular facade like the one seen in the Four Seasons New York Downtown employs prefabricated panels, often mixing solid surfaces with smaller windows.

8 Spruce Street Building Four Seasons New York Downtown
Frank Gehry Architect Robert A.M. Stern Architects
2003 Design Started 2007
2005 Design Ended 2008
2006 Construction Started 2013
2010 Year Completed 2016
Contemporary Architectural Style Contemporary
Residential Current Use Mixed
76 Floors Above Ground 82
1 Floors Below Ground 2
252 Last Floor Height 265
265 m Height (m) 282 m
899 Residential Units 157
Frame Structure Type Frame
Reinforced Concrete Vertical Structure Material Concrete
Reinforced Concrete Horizontal Structure Material Concrete, Steel
No Facade Structural? No
Glass, Steel Main Facade Material Limestone, Concrete
Kreisler Borg Florman Main Contractor Tishman Construction
Forest City Ratner Companies Developer Silverstein Properties
Jaros Baum & Bolles MEP Engineer WSP Flack + Kurtz
WSP Cantor Seinuk Structural Engineer WSP Cantor Seinuk
NY State NY
New York City New York
8 Spruce Street Address 30 Park Place